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Too loud ... No installation ... Not compatible with USB 3.0

append delete Khaliessie

Hi there,

As a computer user and a professional technician who's dealt with literally hundreds of computer clients during the past 31 years, I'm always receptive to another, perhaps more improved Linux distribution that's easy to use for the masses. But who exactly are those masses? In all of my experience I've dealt 99% of the time with 3 groups of people.

1. General user who require no more than 5 or 6 good regular apps.
2. Power users & Technicians who care about speed and customizing.
3. Experienced Windows users who are looking to make a switch.

None of these three groups would be thrilled by a desktop that looks as though it came from an amusement park. Also, almost nobody (IMO) would be receptive to an Operating System than can be installed strictly on a usb stick. Many if not most people, myself included, feel more comfortable having an OS that's installed on their machine. It's very very easy to lose a usb stick, misplace a usb stick, have someone "accidentally" take your usb stick when it's not being used, and so on. That's for the 1% who require something that's completely out of the ordinary and special ... but not for the masses ... whom you should be appealing to if you plan on making money for any kind of commercial support.

I'm not trying to undermine what you're doing. I love the idea of competition between Linux distributions and the wonderful things that they all can achieve. But my first impression from the video was ... Oh, what a nice colorful toy. This would probably be perfect for children.
So much color, so much movement, such large icons, it was just too much.
Exactly because of the potential for children, I downloaded and created a USB image from iLinux.

Using a Dell E6500 with 2,26 dual core processor, 2 GB RAM, and 128 GB SSD drive ...

The iLinux GRUB menu booted up ....
I made no selections and just let it run.
The startup began, there was some colorful stuff going on ...
Then the screen went black for a little while ....
Then there was a blinking white cursor at the top left of the screen ...
Then there was ... nothing ... no matter how long I waited, nothing else ever happened.

At first I thought perhaps the image was defective, but there was really no reason to think that since GRUB and the next startup step appeared error free without a crash or a freeze. Then I thought that perhaps the USB port wasn't able to maintain a steady connection (older laptop). But when I attempted to use my own MX Linux image on a USB 3.0 stick with the same port, there were zero problems.
Then I thought perhaps the iLinux 4.19 kernel was too new ...
... until I checked and saw that my MX Linux image also had Kernel 4.19

So I don't know what's going on, but I'm certain that there are some hardware kinks that still need to be corrected. USB 3.0 has been around for over 10 years and it's supposed to be 100% backwards compatible with USB 2.0 ... which means that the iLinux image should also work correctly, regardless if the image is on a USB 3.0 or a USB 2.0 stick, and regardless if the port is a USB 3.0 or a USB 2.0 port. There seems to be some kind of compatibility issue there ... at least that's how it was for me.

I salute you for your efforts. Sometime in the next 3 months or so I'll be back and I'll try another updated image, to see if this has potential for my plans to help people move from Windows to Linux, more especially children who are receiving their very first computer.
Greetings from Germany.

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append delete #1. Khaliessie

EDIT POST FROM ABOVE: Just as a reminder, what worked for everyone else (6 or 7 people) here, did not work for me because the ability to actually use iLinux as a running OS was not possible. My assessment was based on your video and my personal startup experience with the image. Once I'll actually be able to use the OS, my above opinion may certainly be revisited.

append delete #2. iLinux Creator

Hi!

You beat me by 11 years of experience as an IT Pro. :-P

I have experience as a Computer Technician on Macs, Windows & Linux since 2000. :-)

So, let's take one argument at a time:

1. General user who require no more than 5 or 6 good regular apps.

A General Windows User maybe...

But the more friendly an Operating System is, the more it motivates and empowers the User to learn and use new Apps. This applies to Novice Users too.

Most Mac Users started just by exploring the Finder and they became experts without a manual because the Operating System was Anthropocentric.

Being a Mac User since I was 12 years old back in 1984, I quickly understood the power that Simplicity and Functionality had over the Novice or Average User.

Control Center https://ilinuxos.com/control-center.html is a perfect example of embedding Power User Functions in such a simple and functional way, that even a Novice User can begin to understand them.

And that's what iLinux OS is all about. Extremely easy to use but with extensive functionality under the hood even for Power Users, all wrapped around an extremely easy interface.

When you explore it in depth you will understand...

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None of these three groups would be thrilled by a desktop that looks as though it came from an amusement park.

Remember when you first saw iOS? It too looked like an amusement park and look what effect it had on the Tech Industry and on Society.

iLinux OS has introduced iAUI (iLinux Adaptive User Interface) https://ilinuxos.com/ilinux-adaptive-user-interface-iaui.html

iAUI is designed to adapt to the needs of all Users.

Kids, Novice & Average Users can use iLinux Start https://ilinuxos.com/ilinux-start.html or Easy Access https://ilinuxos.com/easy-access.html

Power Users & Technicians can also use iLinux Menu & Smart Links https://ilinuxos.com/ilinux-menu-and-smart-links.html , Amazing Right Click Menu https://ilinuxos.com/amazing-right-click-menu-and-super-actions.html and all the other Innovations included https://ilinuxos.com/innovations.html

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Also, almost nobody (IMO) would be receptive to an Operating System than can be installed strictly on a usb stick.

This is completely inaccurate.

In the website it is clearly stated that iLinux OS Runs from any Disk and Installs on any Disk. USB Stick, Memory Card, Extrenal Disk or Internal Disk.

https://ilinuxos.com/install.html

https://ilinuxos.com/truly-portable.html

https://ilinuxos.com/install-by-restoring-the-ilinux-disk-image-img.html

https://ilinuxos.com/install-by-disk-cloning-from-ilinux-os-usb-stick.html

https://ilinuxos.com/ilinux-runs-on-new-and-old-computers.html

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But my first impression from the video was ... Oh, what a nice colorful toy.

That's the point.

Anyone can use a Toy. Not anyone can use a Computer. But what if the Computer was Easy as a Toy? Then anyone could use a Computer out of the box without training...

iLinux OS is so Easy you won't even need a manual. It's like using your Phone. Easy, familiar and relaxing!

https://ilinuxos.com/no-manual-needed.html

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This would probably be perfect for children.

If you think iLinux OS is suitable only for children, show the Videos or Screenshots to people you know and see how they react.

Are they attracted or disgusted by it?

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USB Stick Issues

EDIT POST FROM ABOVE: Just as a reminder, what worked for everyone else (6 or 7 people) here, did not work for me because the ability to actually use iLinux as a running OS was not possible. My assessment was based on your video and my personal startup experience with the image. Once I'll actually be able to use the OS, my above opinion may certainly be revisited.

In the website it is clearly stated that:

Some USB Sticks have Hardware Level Encryption or Custom Hardware Settings from their Manufacturer and thus will not be able to Startup from iLinux OS or any other Operating System.

In USB Sticks Read/Write Speed varies. NOT ALL USB STICKS HAVE THE SAME READ/WRITE SPEED. Research thoroughly before buying and choose one with High Read/Write Speed.

https://ilinuxos.com/install-requirements.html

https://ilinuxos.com/install-by-restoring-the-ilinux-disk-image-img.html

https://ilinuxos.com/install-by-disk-cloning-from-ilinux-os-usb-stick.html

I recommend that you try another USB Stick or a Hard Disk (Internal/External).

iLinux OS has gone through extensive Field Testing before it was released.

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I am looking forward to read your review of iLinux OS!

append delete #3. Khaliessie

Just briefly ... commenting on the beginning of your reply ...
Since I provide between 30 & 50 (depending on business flow throughout the year) computers to people each and every year, I also have a pretty good handle on what they're looking to use. The most important thing that you're forgetting in the beginning of your response, is the impact of social media. That's why I said most people only require a handful of apps ... because their social media already requires so much of their attention, that the people whom I've been dealing with (Joe Average) have absolutely no desire whatsoever, to expand on their computer knowledge.
On a personal level, I find this to be quite disturbing. IMO social media has directly contributed to the decline of knowledge, education, and the willingness for people to expand their horizons. My wife and I participated in social media for 2 years, before deciding that we can do without that crap in our lives ... specifically because of the distractions and the time that it sucks out of an individual.

As far as the USB stick is concerned, I did mention that the same stick worked with an MX Linux image without a problem ... on the same machine too.

I'll use another stick, but it'll have to wait for awhile. I'll be back to let you know the results. Have a great weekend.

append delete #4. iLinux Creator

On the Social Media issue, I agree and I believe that everything in our lives must be balanced.

My experience of Average Users is different, maybe because I have a different client pool.

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As far as the USB stick is concerned, I did mention that the same stick worked with an MX Linux image without a problem ... on the same machine too.

You said and I quote:

But when I attempted to use my own MX Linux image on a USB 3.0 stick with the same port, there were zero problems.

So I assumed that you already had MX Linux on another USB Stick. :-)

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Take your time with iLinux testing...

Have a wonderful weekend!

append delete #5. Khaliessie

I do not believe this is a bonafide OS and I don't believe any other comments here are legit. Four USB sticks and three computers later I have come to that conclusion. One of the computers, a 9 year old Dell, had the wifi capability completely wiped out. It NEVER has any issues until the day that the iLinux image was being used. I also have photos of fatal code errors which appear if you hit the ESC key while the boot process is still going on (fatal errors which occurred before the ESC key was deployed). I have 31 years of computer experience and 11 years of Linux experience. Never in my life have I seen the havoc which was created by the iLinux image. There is something very wrong here ... and I believe you and I know exactly what that is.
My sticks & utilized drives have been reformatted with new partition tables.

append delete #6. iLinux Creator

Very serious Technical and Legal Allegations, even though vague and barely understandable.

Do you have any solid proof?

Any hard evidence?

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