iLinux OS Talk
hello forums ! i decided to make a account in here to chat with ilinux cummunity ! i am not good in egnlish (i am chinese)
i wnted to install ilinux for my kids who got their computer and it"s very smooth and very very good ! thank you !!!
i also find out there are too many aps installed. why is there so mani aps ? there is ap store am i right ? cant we install from that ?
Hello and welcome to iLinux OS!
iLinux OS has many Apps preinstalled in order to be ready for use Out of the Box and for an optimum User Experience.
Of course there is an App Store and you can install thousands of Apps from there too.
It's called "iLinux Software Store" https://ilinuxos.com/ilinux-software-store.html and you can find it at the bottom dock or in "iLinux Menu" https://ilinuxos.com/ilinux-menu-and-smart-links.html or in "Application Finder" https://ilinuxos.com/application-finder.html
iLinux has BUILT-IN COMPATIBILITY with all the latest Software Technologies out of the box!
App Image, DEB, Flatpak, Snap, Steam Games & VirtualBox OS Emulator to run Mac & Windows Software.
iLinux embeds Gnome Software Store, Snap Store, App Images, Electron Apps, Steam Games Store, Simple Package Manager & Synaptic Package Manager.
All in one place. In one window. For your convenience.
Feel free to contact us here for any help or assistance!
All the latest ones? You are still based on Debian 10, going to 11 soon, and the software is from December 2020/Early 2021. There is Flatpak and Snap which have newer though. I'm surprised you don't hate Snap despite most of the Linux community (or mafia according to you) hate Snap.
Flatpak and Snap software is still running fine on Debian 10.
Debian 10 Stable is not old. It is mature and Stable.
It's LTS Life ( https://wiki.debian.org/LTS ) ends on June 2024 and it's ELTS Life ( https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Extended ) hasn't yet been determined.
Operating System Stability is the #1 priority for us and we don't settle for anything less.
An Unstable Computer is a Useless Computer.
We prefer a slightly "older" Stable OS over a "newer" Unstable OS.
Without Stability the Computer Fails to execute the User's Commands and the User Experience Fails.
If the User Experience Fails, the Operating System Fails.
This for us is intolerable.
There is a difference between using Linux for fun or experimentation and using Linux to get work done.
Unstable or newly released Core Linux Distributions are not suitable for getting work done.
If you disagree you can use any other Linux Distribution.
No one is forcing you to use iLinux OS.
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We do not hate anyone or anything.
Of course we disagree with the mentality and with the architecture of the Snap Software Layer but we believe that Users must have the ability to run Snap Software Out of the Box if they want to.
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The so called and Self Proclaimed "Linux Community" that is controlled by the "Linux Mafia Army" has nothing to do with the real Linux Community.
The real Linux Community is the SUM of ALL Linux Users and ALL Linux Developers.
We have been over that before. There is no point in repeating the same things all over again. If you want to discuss it any further please open a new Thread and don't disrupt irrelevant Threads.
“Debian 10 Stable is not old. It is mature and Stable.”
It is indeed mature and stable, but I think it's considered "old" because the software in Debian 10 is from 2018 or 2019.
“We prefer a slightly "older" Stable OS over a "newer" Unstable OS.”
Your opinion really but it depends on the software packaged in it. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's the most stable, and the same goes for newer, but saying newer is unstable isn't right honestly. I'm not saying bleeding edge (like Arch) but something like a few months old. iLinux is based on Debian so you can't control that so ok.
“Without Stability the Computer Fails to execute the User's Commands and the User Experience Fails. If the User Experience Fails, the Operating System Fails. This for us is intolerable.”
I wish Canonical did the same, LOL. Ubuntu had a perfectly functioning GNOME Software center before Ubuntu 20.04 which "just works".
For some reason they decided to switch to the Snap version of GNOME Software which is not really as stable or functional as the standard GNOME Software app. It is improving and getting better, however they need to ensure stability for Snap apps (they do ensure stability for the standard system which is nice)
They replaced Firefox with the Snap version of Firefox (which is as good as the standard version, and Mozilla wanted this change and not Canonical) however you can't use native host connectors, meaning that browser extensions like GNOME Extensions and Plasma Browser Integration won't work (unless the connector is packaged as a snap)
“Of course we disagree with the mentality and with the architecture of the Snap Software Layer but we believe that Users must have the ability to run Snap Software Out of the Box if they want to.”
I believe Manjaro does that. Snap is very weird to me because of it's design, but it works and setting permissions to snaps are easier than flatpak, which is nice.
“We have been over that before. There is no point in repeating the same things all over again. If you want to discuss it any further please open a new Thread and don't disrupt irrelevant Threads.”
I guess my conclusion was I probably wasted my time here. I disagree with the way you make iLinux (because 500 apps, why? Don't want to fight about it though)
“the software in Debian 10 is from 2018 or 2019”
Debian 10 was released on 6th of July of 2019.
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
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“Just because it's old doesn't mean it's the most stable, and the same goes for newer, but saying newer is unstable isn't right honestly.”
It depends on the Linux Distribution and on the sum of the Applications you use.
In the case of iLinux OS we are absolutely honest.
38 years of Experience in computers has taught us that for Maximum Stability and Critical Mission Projects, you must never adopt a new Operating System immediately. A period of at least 6 months after launch is absolutely neccesary for Testing and Debugging.
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Again, if you want to discuss anything irrelevant to any Thread, just open a new Thread and don't disrupt irrelevant Threads.
“iLinux OS has many Apps preinstalled in order to be ready for use Out of the Box and for an optimum User Experience.”
Windows doesn't have that much bloat and still become the most popular OS, even for who doesn't even used a computer before. I hope Linux will dethrone it and it's just a matter of time (and probably the community too).
When all peoples in the world are creating tools and software to remove all useless bloats that this people might need but they won't, you just straight up include more than 500+ bloats.
“App Image, DEB, Flatpak, Snap, Steam Games & VirtualBox OS Emulator to run Mac & Windows Software.”
I doubt everyone will know how to create a Virtual Machine. Creating and setup a Windows VM might be easier, but setting up a Mac VM is a pain. And it requires a lot, a lot of your computer resources to be allocated. And you want your OS to be smooth on old PC, then VirtualBox is probably the first thing to take consideration. It requires VT-x or AMD-v (depend on CPU) which not everyone know how to go to BIOS!
Snap is a hot garbage. It's a semi proprietary thing that is just outright garbage. Some APT packages are just the metapackage to the snap.
“38 years of Experience in computers has taught us that for Maximum Stability and Critical Mission Projects, you must never adopt a new Operating System immediately. A period of at least 6 months after launch is absolutely neccesary for Testing and Debugging.”
Windows 11 just released on October 2021 and now a lot of people was using it (people are trying to use it on older hardware too, despite it's just released for a short time).
And Debian 11 is released way before Windows 11.
And of course, let's move to a new thread shall we?
You are fast, ClickNin...
What's your point?
“What's your point?”
My point is that 500+ applications is considered bloated.
It's break the minimalism and professional of Linux.
Also VirtualBox is not a easy software to use for normal user. And it require a little bit powerful hardware.
“Use another Linux Distribution.”
I can do that a really long time ago if you don't start your stupid "Linux Mafia" drama.
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What's your point?
It's not drama. It's reality.
The "Linux Mafia Army" is real and now exposed. You are exposed. Get used to it.
@root was crystal clear about "Linux Mafia Army":
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“Well, let's talk about the so called "Linux Community"...
It's no secret that 99% of all those "Linux Community Websites & Linux YouTube Chanells & Linux IRC Chat Channels", promote 5-10 Linux Distros out of 100's. This is not random.
And it goes deeper that that. The hostile behaviour of this "Linux Mafia Army" when you talk about other distros than the ones they push, is classic...
All those "Linux Community Websites & Linux YouTube Chanells" sell your browsing data to 1000's of capitalist companies by spying on you via Cookies, so even in most Linux distros (FOSS or not) you are the product...
I am not saying that it's bad to want to make money, but if at the same time you are preaching Internet Freedom and FOSS, it's a bit hypocritical at best.
So, don't lecture us about the so called "Linux Community".
We know the subversive and covert tactics of your "Dark Web Gang": Online Mob/Swarm Misinformation, Online Mob/Swarm Slandering, Online Mob/Swarm Character Assassination, Online Mob/Swarm Psychological Operations, Online Mob/Swarm Sabotage.
You may have positioned yourself at the backbone of the internet, pulling strings from the shadows, but you are not invisible.”
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“They want you to release your Proprietary Code as FOSS in order to profit from it.
It's a classic tactic of the "Linux Mafia Army", to apply negative psychological pressure in order to discredit and discourage developers, steal their code and profit from it in any way.
And because they plan far ahead, I think they fear of what iLinux may become.”
“The "Linux Mafia Army" is real and now exposed. You are exposed. Get used to it.”
Ok ok.
- I give suggestion > Linux Mafia exposed
- AaronTechnic give suggestion > Linux Mafia exposed
- Kally Smith give suggestion and some explaination > Linux Mafia exposed
- I tell you about GPL violation, proof, resources and the way to resolve it > Linux Mafia exposed
- I want to talk with peace > Linux Mafia exposed
- I talk about censorship > Linux Mafia exposed
- I give you proof that no FOSS site collect your data > Linux Mafia exposed
- I explain why you should update to Debian 11 > Linux Mafia exposed
What you guys can even do? LOL
No.
You are trying to mislead and disinform by starting the "CHARACTER ASSASSINATION" Narrative Script.
Reverse Psychology won't get you anywhere with us.
Any one who reads the Threads in this Community understands.
“You are trying to mislead and disinform by starting the "CHARACTER ASSASSINATION" Narrative Script.”
WTF? Are you kidding me? Just prove that you are right about Linux Mafia when I just giving suggestions?!?
“Reverse Psychology won't get you anywhere with us.”
And it will not get you anywhere with me.
“Any one who reads the Threads in this Community understands.”
Incl. me.
And, all that I said above is the truth, and since you are telling people to reads the Threads here, so that's no different than "hey I called these guy mafia go check it out" lol.
Any one who reads the Threads in this Community understands.
So let them read and decide for themselves.
Why??? Just why??
What ever @ClickNin has said was true. And I agree because anyone criticizing iLinux gets called the "mafia".
You think that we are doing reverse-psychology which is just funny.
What's even funnier is that you think we have textbooks and that kind of crap for a stupid online argument.
“You are trying to mislead and disinform by starting the "CHARACTER ASSASSINATION" Narrative Script.”
This is just funny, because almost every "iLinux user" and YOU in this forum criticize those who give suggestions or criticize.
You just can't admit the fact that you assume everyone here is the mafia.
@ClickNin and @Kaily Smith came here because something wasn't right and wanted to talk about it, without fighting, but you made it into a fight by calling is "Linux Mafia"
I can't wait for a reply saying I used textbooks and reverse-psychology.
Any one who reads the Threads in this Community understands.
So let them read and decide for themselves.
waw ! why are u poeple fighting ? do civial talk ! no fight !
We are not fighting.
They hate iLinux OS and they can't let go of that hate or just use another Linux Distribution.
They have a mental disorder and they refuse to go to a doctor or use another Linux Distribution.
“They hate iLinux OS and they can't let go of that hate or just use another Linux Distribution.”
Oh lmao, calling us mafia and then try to pretending that you are a innocent... Great job.
“They have a mental disorder and they refuse to go to a doctor or use another Linux Distribution.”
You are the one who need a meeting with docter lol, you calling a normal user like me a Mafia, and I'm trying to prove that you are wrong, and you tell me to visit the doctor, so geez.
You are not the innocent here, calling me mafia, swearing at me, and trying to misleading peoples and always defending your wrong point.
Any one who reads the Threads in this Community understands.
So let them read and decide for themselves.
There is no right or wrong in Linux.
Every Linux Distro is different and every User chooses the Distro he/she prefers.
You are so damaged...
“Every Linux Distro is different and every User chooses the Distro he/she prefers.”
I already know that, but what I'm discussing here is that you, and your damn alts keep calling me a "mafia".
“WTF are you talking about you damaged psycho?”
Stop being an idiot. As iLinux Support Team said, read all the threads.
WTF are you talking about you idiot damaged psycho?
I am not iLinux Support Team you shithead!
Do you even think before you speak?!
“I am not iLinux Support Team you shithead!”
When I said you are iLinux Support Team? I said that because he said that everyone that read all the threads here understand, so why not do it? Also why swear? Isn't that no censorship = friendly? Swear = friendly?
I officially give up!
You have a serious brain damage!
You have it all so mixed up in your head that all hope is gone for good...
You think iLinux has no users whatsoever and everyone that posts in this forum is the iLinux developers with various aliases so any attempt for cure is futile...
Quickly ran out of words, you are talking about WTF?
It's not even related to waht I'm saying LOL.
“Any one who reads the Threads in this Community understands.”
“So let them read and decide for themselves.”
Scroll up a little bit please.
“You think iLinux has no users whatsoever and everyone that posts in this forum is the iLinux developers with various aliases so any attempt for cure is futile...”
Think what? Similar grammar errors, similar spacing and similar behavior.
This is impossible to be just a coincident.
Of course I never said that I'm 100% sure that you guys are just one guy behind ALT, but if you want to prove then please add a WORD FITTLER, MODERATION SYSTEM AND ACCOUNT SYSTEM please.
@iLinux Support Team's statement about "No censorship = Friendly" doesn't make any sense if @i386 is swearing like it's very friendly. I guess that's the reason for no censorship though. At least please do somehow to prevent swearing, it's not FRIENDLY AT ALL.
I think the reason there is no censorship or moderation is because the iLinux Creator wants to ensure complete freedom of speech. While this is controversial, it's their own forum site, and they can make the rules how they want, as long as it isn't illegal.
Hmm thinking again, I think it's fair enough.
But I don't like people that swear at me for no reasons.
This Community is a "Censorship Free Zone" and it will always be. You can write whatever you want and bare the appropriate responses.
If you have a problem with anyone or with i386, you must work it out with him/her.
Moderators: iLinux Creator, iLinux Support Team
